Monday 17 December 2007

Should we Continue ???

Friends,

After reading all the stuff at MTM, I'm Stunned!!!

Sagnik and Ravi suggest that there are pains when somebody is posting his scans... You are mistaken. Is it not painful to upload scanned comics to imageshack? is it not painful to upload the download link to mediafire/rapidshare? if it is not, please come forward and share at least 15 ---20 "already scanned" comics with us,, I will send you all the links.... I challenge you both!!!! I know, you will not come forward and post,, it requires at least some efforts1!!!

Dara, you always boast about your so called collection!! how many comics have you scanned and posted or posted " others" scan to your blog? you are directly lifting the images scanned by others, how many times u have given credits to those scanners, at least give other blogs links..
at least we give proper credits to the scanners.!!!

Ravi; you have only commented twice and and on both occasion you have started a controversy.. I agree we have posted most of the comics scanned by others, but REMEMBER, because of bloggers like us, you have downloaded all these comics!!!!

I don't understand,you always(all the time)( except chandan.. I don't have any complaints against him, truth is I don't want to start another issue ;-))) demand/request specific comics from us.. you consider its your right.. and if we just express our feelings, you think we are not worth of it!!!! because we are posting somebody else's work, or we are too new to demand/ even think about it... so, if the guy like CW has been consitantly posting original scans, why don't you appreciate him to his merits? he also gets same number of comments/ some time even less!!! as we get....
The fact is you want every thing free!!!! let alone paying for this, you are not ready to comment/ appreciate them, who are doing for you...

I have almost all indrajals, either in physical form or scanned form, I have around 520 copies of scanned versions, and 600+ copies in physical form,only 200-215 must have published on various blogs till date.. There are many more to go... So, its the time for you to decide, whether we should post only "original" scans or the the comics already scanned by Ajay, Prashant, Desiguru and others..

So, should we continue posting "others scans" or should stick to our originals?

31 comments:

Grouchy's Comics said...

ICC is 100% right. So what if somebody else scanned it. First one needs the attitude to be able to share it with all then comes the job posting in imgashack etc.
So a blog owner does have the right to feel aggrieved if a post is not met with enough response.

I can only speak for myself: I dont have any indrajal hard copies. All the e-copies I have had are those got from the blogs. I deeply appreciate what the blog owners do and I would choose a simple thank you comment over a controversial personal attack everytime. Every comic hero is unique and so is every comic lover. The world is filled with people with different tastes and when we embrace this fact we share each others knowledge and become better. We are all here for only onething enjoying comics. Let us put ev3rything else behind and reiterate our support to MTM, ICC and CW to enable them to continue their great task.

Ravi Satpathy said...

Dear ICC i think i am terribly mistaken,now let me clear myself more.
I never denied appreciations for all the bloggers who share comics with us as having scans is not very uncommon but to share those scans by taking pains in creating a blog then uploading the scans or link is itself a appreciative gesture which is and should be hugely clapped up.
Let us take the current example of MTM,thing which i felt odd about him was his double standard (i says spade a 'spade' and king a 'king') as when he was posting comics scanned by others he never complained about the less no. of comments also he didn't supported you TPH and CW over the controversial episode of regulation of comics links but as soon he purchased,scanned and posted a comic he began too curious and touchy about lesser no. of comments issue and in the heat of moment he threatened to close the blog and asked comic lovers to ask (read 'appreciate') personally to him for the d/l which he will send them via mail thus approving the same policy which TPH/CW adopted for the time being....what does it indicates that he is more concerned about getting 'proper' appreciation for his work only..this was the only thing which made me to comment over it.
I never said that you peoples should not post comics scanned by others but what only i feels odd is when there is great deviation in ones words and actions specially comic bloggers like you as you don't know but we simple comic lovers,who don't have access to these gems,and when we happen to find comic blogs of all of you our joy finds no bound and we simply rate you peoples as Heroes but when we see our heroes falling back due to lack of control over tiny and simple human instincts the ideal image of all of you in our subconscious suffers a setback which naturally tends to trigger some valid emotional outburst!!!!
I hope that i have explained myself in a more clear way.

Dara said...

Sorry dada!!

I never meant that...posting others scan also worth apprecaitn,n abt my scans,I always mentio who've sent me the d/l link...how can I know who originally scanned those???

Anyway,have a glass-of-thanda-pani(it really works!!) n POST A COMIC today....:-))

Dara said...

Now,as I said @MTM... it's like a BAD FLU..spread though allover the Comic-blogs,,,through a very word "Good Bye"!!

Guess,ONLY Anupam (apparently he does it)n CW left to threat!!

See,if ya don enjoy postring....who can stop you??

But,personally I wish MTM/ICC/CW & AA shud alive as long as pos'ble!! :))

Indrajal Comics Club said...

Dara said

Now,as I said @MTM... it's like a BAD FLU..spread though allover the Comic-blogs,,,through a very word "Good Bye"!!

Guess,ONLY Anupam (apparently he does it)n CW left to threat!!

See,if ya don enjoy postring....who can stop you??

But,personally I wish MTM/ICC/CW & AA shud alive as long as pos'ble!! :))

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dara,
please read carefully, i never said that i 'm leaving or "goodbye", i only said, "shud we continue what we are doing or we shud scan only our" original hard copies"...
please check ur references before posting..
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dara said

See,if ya don enjoy postring....who can stop you??

Dara,
u r absolutely right, if i decide to quit, nobody in the world can stop me from doing that,,, that will be always my decision in the end...i will decide what to do, nobody else..
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dara said

But,personally I wish MTM/ICC/CW & AA shud alive as long as pos'ble!! :))

dara,

if u really want us to be active till the end, please try to improve ur behaviour,, please yaar, what is ur problem yaar? if u want to fight, fight with me,, send me hate mails.. dont supress ur emotions,, express them,,
but in public blogs, u have to set a limit,



i'm still ur friend, we all are, we want to see ur positive side not dark side...
come on, be a diferent man...

Indrajal Comics Club said...

dear ravi,

we are not sadhu sant.. we are also humans like u... we have our emotions,, dont make us gods or heros,,

kamal hassan says in sagar " jo admi insaan nahi ban sakta, log use devta bana dete hain....

mtm has been consistantly posting vintage mandrake/ indrajals, why didnt u praise him before? those may not be his comics, but those were scnned by ajay.. why didnt u praise ajay then?.. see, tali kabhi ek haath se nahi bajti,

as tph said, u r a good writer, so we require people like u to come foward and join us,,,

hope, i also have cleared my view

Dara said...

Chandu,
You are very angry on me n somewhat that's justified....BUT THEN,you shuid know..ek haath se tali nahi bajti hai!!

Am not reffering what confusion I'd created in past...but,recently,a couple of person,conrinuously provoke me by rake-up something frm old fight etc!!

Well,I'm trying to control my anger..it's really hurt all incld. me!!..plse forgive what I said,don take those as my real-self AND plse reqst thost to NOT PROVOKE me by BRINGING PAST fights!!

SG

Indrajal Comics Club said...

dara said,

Sorry dada!!

I never meant that...posting others scan also worth apprecaitn,n abt my scans,I always mentio who've sent me the d/l link...how can I know who originally scanned those???

Anyway,have a glass-of-thanda-pani(it really works!!) n POST A COMIC today....:-))


dara,

is hisaab se tumhe to hamesha thande pani ke kuwe mein baithna chahiye ;_))))

again i'm telling u,

if u want to debate, prove ur point properly, abusing somebody on mothers/sisters or wife's name, doesn;t prove that u r right,,,it only suggests that u have nothing to say further,u have no valid points left, u have lost a battle and thats why u r trying to prove urself...

please consider my advise, u must be 25-26.. i'm 9-10 yrs older then u... i was like u few yrs ago,,, but i have changed..

Dara said...

....if u want to debate, prove ur point properly, abusing somebody ..

Arre,I've many fight,where at the last,I realised the other side has a MORE valid pt!!

But,what one can do,when you prove your point n IN RETURN either silence/off-topic abuse you get?

What one can do,when he told that,as he'd creted some fight in past n hence TOPICS shwrewly changed?? Then,JUST TO crete EMOTIONAL SUPPORT,abandon own blog n MOST FUNNY..BACK within 10 days!!!

Then,SAME PERSON again showed frustration ,as someone don support him @MTM,n said AM the reason (in his language"that living being's bite")??

Tell ME ...n I'll folow it!!

Dara said...

Am ok to NOT behave properly...abuse very badly,IN SHORT ...NOT deserve to be here,,,,BUT TWHAT those GUYS DOING any differen than me???

They r supposed to be GOOD GUY??

Or,as I did some confusion when THEY WERE NOT here....and DESERVE abuse me according to that incident AND VERY WELL-Behaved???

Dara said...

When I abused that filthy man,TPH,I felt bad later....NOT FOR HIM but for other visitors...I still think that person deserved those!!

Well,am leaving now....so,no further!!

Indrajal Comics Club said...

dara said at MTM

P.S.- Guess,after some Blogger's pseudo-Good Bye attemt,it's now becomes an inspiratn to others,may b b4/in the NEW year,we'll see others will follow the same path as well!!!..

Well,it's like a bad flu..here it's spread through a very word "Good Bye"!!

Take care...

Anyway, Decision is yours,but think twice b4 takin' any such step!! :-)

dara,

who started it this time?

Indrajal Comics Club said...

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

"im leaving now"

hahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

now its really spreading.....hihihihih

or ur acting as chandan ;))))

Indrajal Comics Club said...

dara said just now,

When I abused that filthy man,TPH,I felt bad later....NOT FOR HIM but for other visitors...I still think that person deserved those!!

Well,am leaving now....so,no further!!

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dara, u r abusing him again saying "filthy"

Dara said...

Chandu,
If you want blindly support someone..very good,but DON'T PRETEND to be neutral then!!

Honestly,What I'd said,in fear of that bala MAY B inspired that PSEUDO-ATTEMPT n we lost ALL classic Mandrake strips!!

Most don care of Hindi-IJC scans,as those r avilable to all blog-ownweers like you/cw/mtm etc...but ABANDONING a Mandrake blog wills surely hurt,as theer's none other!!

But then,whom am telling this??? continue what you want heer...it's your blog,afterall!!

Indrajal Comics Club said...

pattu

thanks for supporting... u r one of the rare sensible persons remaining here

Dara said...

Chandu,
If you want fin out-of-me,,,then proceeds...but thing's AM far away from acting!!

Indrajal Comics Club said...

dara,

come on yaar, i'm not supporting anybody.. i just told u not to abuse sombodys mother/wife.. thats it

Ajay said...

I request all of you to stop such type of comments. can you imagine Vineeth who has largest collection of comics in India, has liberally lent me rare comics to me in my very first visit to him without knowing much about me. Similarly Bhoopathy from Chennai who has also helped me in lending his comics & scanning some comics too, nerver wrote about any credit to be given to them. They shared for all comics lovers , why we are scanning so that we all can see & read stories which were missed by all of you. Can you imagine now, even you are ready to pay thousands of money for comics , these are not available at any cost whereas all foreign comics, they have some price may be higher , but these are there in the market.
So we all should give proper respect & credit to every body without hurting any body's feeling. it takes lot of time to scan , minimize , give photoshop effect & in posting comics .So pl avoid giving harsh comments, no comments can be better if we can not write properly.
Ajay

Indrajal Comics Club said...

thanks ajay for saying ...

Grouchy's Comics said...

Well Said Ajay. Please stop personal attacks and lets get back to do what we all came to do in the first place -- enjoy some comics. We have much to offer to each other if we communicate constructively.

Chandan said...

I don't understand,you always(all the time)( except chandan.. I don't have any complaints against him, truth is I don't want to start another issue ;-))) demand/request specific comics from us.. you consider its your right.. and if we just express our feelings, you think we are not worth of it!!!! because we are posting somebody else's work, or we are too new to demand/ even think about it...

ICC,I can very well get the hidden meaning.I always knew you hated my requests but were just pretending.
For what you said this?Just tick whichever applicable.
1. Because I asked a particular bahadur,which,some people despite having,don’t post
2. I try my best to resolve issue bet’n TPH and Dara
3. I guess iam the one of very few who appreciates Ajay apart from bloggers
4. Never had any doubts of the efforts of all bloggers (whether original or borrowed)
5. Because I have been missing you for last 10 days
6. Because I have mailed you atleast half a dozen times but didn’t get a single reply
7. try every method in the book to please all of you so that you all don’t feel frustrated
8. Appeal to all viewers to comment

Tell me ICC,what’s it?
If you have any misunderstanding please read MY comments on MTM.
As for requests think this is the end.
Iam grateful to TPH for one Bahadur where I least expected to view it,who went out of the ways and got it scanned within 4 hrs and put it up. Iam not saying because I didn’t view it before.I read it when I was very young and still remember.But the effort was praiseworthy.
Its become criminal to request any now.thanks for all the comics so far.
I think (including all blogs)I have so far requested about 10-15 but I was made to feel
Like I asked for 100 at a stretch.
Please anyone,don’t say iam emotional.Iam not .
I feel a little bad when someone close makes me feel that way……..

Phantom And Mandrake Fan said...

Folks, I am tired of seeing too many personal fights, Dara, TPH, Ravi each trying to get an opportunity to settle old score. Let me tell you all, just stop such comments in future, it only amuses who seek cheap entertainment. Instead, focus your comments on the comic/strip being posted, or something else that can be interesting to read. I am going to start comment moderation from now on. I do not want to see any more filthy language or personal fights in any of the blogs. If we have a nice environment, more people will feel adding to the comments.

Phantom And Mandrake Fan said...

Welcome back, ICC. Very good to hear from you.
Excellent points brought out by ICC. Fully agree with you, and thanks for bringing this topic as a post in your blog.

Indrajal Comics Club said...

u missed my point again.. what i said was "u(means readers) always demand some comics except chandan,,, whts wrong in that?
i have always liked ur requests,, i feel guilty that i cant fulfill them..i dont have scanned versions...
when will u understand that i always try to pull ur legs...

u said...

ICC,I can very well get the hidden meaning.I always knew you hated my requests but were just pretending.
For what you said this?
ICC: WHAT DID I SAY? THAT WAS NOT FOR U... FOR THE REST (EXCEPT SOME REPEAT VISITORS)

Just tick whichever applicable.
ICC: OK LETS DO IT...

1. Because I asked a particular bahadur,which,some people despite having,don’t post
WHO IS THAT PERSON?? TELL ME.. I WILL KILL HIM

2. I try my best to resolve issue bet’n TPH and Dara
HMMM.. U FAILED... WE ALL INFACT
3. I guess iam the one of very few who appreciates Ajay apart from bloggers
U ARE..

4. Never had any doubts of the efforts of all bloggers (whether original or borrowed)
I KNOW

5. Because I have been missing you for last 10 days
THANKS DEAR, EVEN MY WIFE DOESNT MISS ME ;-

6. Because I have mailed you atleast half a dozen times but didn’t get a single reply
SIMPLE.. I WASN;T AVAILABLE WHOLE WEEK... SEND ONE MORE MAIL.. I WILL REPLY U AND GIVE U MY CELL NO.. SO U CAN ANYTIME TALK TO ME WHENEVER U WISH.. HAPPY?

7. try every method in the book to please all of you so that you all don’t feel frustrated
OPPPPPPPPPPSS THT WAS THE ONLY REASON OF FRUSTRATION,,, HIHIHIHIHI SORRY NO JOKING,, WE ARE SERIOUS

8. Appeal to all viewers to comment
NOBODY LISTENS TO U

U DIDNT ASK 100 U ASKED 326.. BAHADUR AND GANG OF IMPOSTERS...

R U QUITTING? -)

Indrajal Comics Club said...

bala:

please dont turn on comment moderation...it sucks,,,

Chandan said...

Iam sorry,i think i have misunderstood and wrote something in haste.
But ICC,STILL NEED A explanation.
But,as MTM said,great post.
How was the trip?

WildMagic said...

Dear ICC,

I love indrajals and you are doing a sterling service to all fans by posting these comics. I understand that posting comics takes time, patience and a high degree of motivation. Depending on the comments you received, this motivation tends to go up or down.

I feel that the originality of the scans does not matter. Why? Because I imagine that you also have a life and sometimes you are just too busy to scan a hard-copy and upload it. At such times, you have a choice..either not upload or upload a non-original scan. Now, given the choice between no comic or a non-original scan, I am sure true fans will prefer the non-original scan. Also, by posting non-original scans, you are asserting your wish to post SOMEthing, rather than let the blog idle and I think this is very, very nice of you.

I appreciate the spirit with which you are going about this task. In the broad context of 'comic or no comic', I feel that the question of 'original or not' is irrelevant. We of course can't and shouldn't trouble to post only original comics..we can request, but never demand.

Knowing the spirit with which you are posting comics, I'm sure that you will post originals as and when as you can. That is good enough!

Sorry if this post reads like a disconnected ramble. I am just putting my thoughts down as the come to me.

Regards,
Sagar from Stockholm

Indrajal Comics Club said...

thank you chandan ... trip was hectic,, will have to go again in this week

sagar.. thanks dear,

Dara said...

@ICC:
Don ya've get enough comments,i.e. the 'source-of-energy' behind comic-posting??

Even fact is,your Two LATEST filler-Posts gained MORE comments THAN comic-Posts itself(ingeneral)!! ;o))

So,may b,we'll see in future,ALTERNATIVE Comic-Filler posts...one for readers n other for you..err...huge comments!!

Go ahead ;-)

P.S.- Don b 'senti' like our beloved Ol' man...:-))

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